BN/UMNO 3 LINE THUGS INFILTRATE BERSIH 3.0 WHILE POLICE ATTACK INNOCENT CIVILIANS & JOURNALISTS

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In an apparent attempt to get rid of evidence, the 'Thugs in Uniform', The Royal Malaysian Police has harassed, assaulted and confisticated or damaged cameras belonging to local and international journalists covering the fracas during the Bersih 3.0 event in Kuala Lumpur. According to Al Jazeera, their journalists were roughed up by the police and their camera was damaged by the police. Al Jazeera reported that scores of unarmed Bersih 3.0 participants were brutally assaulted by the police even though they were unarmed and showed no signs of aggression. In a live crossover interview, Al Jazeera journalist Harry Fawcett reported that he and his cameraman were faced with alleged police violence as well. "I'm coming to you via Skype from an iPad because the Malaysian police has just busted our camera," said Fawcett."In a number of instances, we saw a policeman grabbing a protester while the other would punch, knee or slap the protester. "We went to try to film that ourselves, and found ourselves subject to not that harsh treatment but not dissimilar. "We were shoved and held, our camera pushed to the ground. Perhaps they were under instruction to prevent the media from filming this kind of thing," he added.


One photographer told Malaysiakini that after he refused to delete photographs of a melee, a police personnel removed his memory card and destroyed it. It was confirmed by Guang Ming Daily that one of their photographers was arrested while taking photographs of the process of an arrest and alleged police assault. A Channel News Asia video cameraman has vowed to lodge a police report after he was punched. "Furthermore, they took our tripod," said the cameraman Kenny Lew. Meanwhile, a Merdeka Review photographer said claimed she was assaulted by four police personnel who attempted to seize her camera and mobile phone. "They pulled my media accreditation card and kicked it to a side. They then demanded that I leave or face arrest," she said.

The Scribe has received reports that elements of BN/Umno linked TIGA LINE thugs may be the agent provocateurs that breached the police barricade and charged at the police at Merdeka Square. They were also the ones who 'staged' the overturning of the police car. Bersih says it is shocked by allegations that some of its supporters had acted violently during the Bersih 3.0 rally today. Bersih co-chairperson Ambiga Sreenevasan described allegations of violence committed by the movement’s supporters as “highly unusual”. This explains why the police stood and watched when the thugs overturned the police car and no arrests were made. Batu MP Tian Chua and former International Islamic University (UIA) law professor Dr Abdul Aziz Bari have been arrested. "Now I'm arrested, police hit us as we were dragged thru rows of rowdy officers - many got beaten up after being arrested," reads Chua's tweet.

In an attempt to cover up what is turning out to be the beginning of BN/Umno's downfall, the BN/MIC MP for Hulu Selangor Pariah Kamlanathan defended the police actions on Al Jazeera and blamed every thing on the opposition.

MALAYSIAN BN/UMNO REGIME ON THE ROPES!

BREAKING NEWS

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Some 100,000 patriotic citizens demonstrated against the policies of the Evil BN/Umno regime of Prime Minister Najib Razak in Kuala Lumpur today. This amazing show of unity by Malaysians of various religions and race which started of as peaceful turned ugly when the BN/Umno controllled police started firing tear gas and water cannons at them. This may herald the beginning of the end of the cursed BN/Umno Regime! Are we seeing the sparks of a Malaysian Spring?

The Regime has certainly been rattled by this show of unity by Malaysian of diffent religions and races. Eyewitness reports say that the police have blocked exits for retreating demonstrators and are firing water cannons and tear gas at them in the process.

A police vehicle allegedly hits two protestors in front of Sogo shopping centre, injuring them.

An angry crowd surrounds the police vehicle which has been abandoned, and overturns it.

 Bersih steering committee member Andrew Khoo condemns the tear gas and water cannon attacks saying, "This is unwarranted, escalated violence. The crowd is very peaceful, a lot of people are just coming to take photographs. 

Leader of the Opposition YB Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim said the following at the Rally...

“Today Malaysians have made history. The people are no longer afraid,” he said.

“Over 250,000 people have gathered. What does this mean? It means we have succeed, the rakyat have succeeded.

“We thank you all. As the Bersih chief said, we have succeeded in sending a clear message.

“We want elections to be clean,” said a feisty Anwar to loud cheers from a sea of people who pack Jalan Masjid Jamek, the main road in front of the LRT, to the brim.

“Malays, Chinese, and Indians today all want the dirty government to end,” he said, after which he called on the protestors to disperse.

“Time has come for us to disperse peacefully and in an orderly manner,” he said, thanking everyone.

 

Top Saudi Cleric Issues Fatwa: Destroy Churches.Will Malaysia Follow This Fatwa Too???

THE DEMON POSSESSED GRAND MUFTI OF SAUDI ARABIA, Abdulaziz Al al-Sheikh SPEAKS WITH SATAN'S TONGUE TO DESTROY CHURCHES


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In recent years the king of Saudi Arabia has won plaudits around the world for promoting interfaith dialogs. Those efforts recently received a dramatic setback when the top religious official in Saudi Arabia issued a fatwa earlier this month calling on the faithful to destroy all churches in the Arabian peninsula.


The ruling came in response to a request from a Kuwaiti legislator who wanted to know if under Islamic principles the government of Kuwait could ban church construction in the country. Citing what is said to be a deathbed request by the Prophet Mohammed as the basis for his ruling, the senior cleric in the Saudi religious hierarchy (Abdulaziz Al al-Sheikh) found that under Islamic principles, not only should all new church construction be banned, existing churches should be destroyed.


This is not news in one sense; official Saudi policy has long banned the open practice of non-Islamic religion in the Kingdom. Other governments on the peninsula have other policies, and the small sheikhdoms are often more tolerant on a range of issues than the puritanical Saudis. The ruling has no legal force in these other countries, and their religious authorities often disagree with Saudi clerics on various points.


Nevertheless, after Christian websites reported a story which received little attention in the secular press, European religious leaders engaged in various high level exchanges with their Islamic counterparts spoke up. It has long been a sore point in these conversations that while predominantly Christian countries offer Muslim immigrants and visitors full rights of religious expression, including the freedom to build mosques, there is no reciprocity. Christians are widely persecuted and discriminated against across the Islamic world, and mob violence and murder is depressingly common in some countries. Other minorities are also routinely and systematically persecuted and mistreated. Members of the Bahai faith are frequently subject to persecution, and there are many Sunni countries that discriminate against Shiites.


Here in Malaysia, we are seeing how the Muslim dominated United Malays National Organisation is allowing Muslim zealots such as the Mufti of Perak Harussani Zakaria, Chinese Muslim convert Ridhuan Tee, Hassan Ali, Zul Nordin, PEKIDA, HIMPUN, UMNO, PERKASA, the National Ulama Council, JAKIM, IKIM et al to spew lies after lies about Christianity and Christians. These lies and fabrications are fanned further by the Umno controlled mainstream media. Attacks on the sanctity of Christianity has become prevalent with rabid Muslim clerics spewing lies and hatred from the 'mimbar' (pulpit) of mosques about Christianity and Christians.


Christians are acused of deceiving Muslims into converting to Christianity when these half baked Muslim Clerics and scholars don't realize that this so-called 'conversions' may be the work of cults such as The Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, The World Wide Church of God and a host of others who are not considered and accepted as Christians by mainstream Christianity which includes, Catholic, Protestants, Orthodox and Evangelicals.


One thing these Muslim Clerics must understand is that Christians are NOT going to be cowed nor yield to these bigoted 'fatwas' which Christians see as the TONGUE OF SATAN! While courageous voices do speak out against these practices (such as the PAS leadership in Malaysia), some religious leaders and political movements claiming to represent religious ideals aggressively promote discrimination and persecution as core Islamic values with deep roots in orthodox Muslim doctrine and practice going back to the times of the Prophet Mohammed.


Many and quite possibly most interfaith conversations are pretty mealy-mouthed and essentially useless. People engaged in these conversations often represent the more liberal wing of their respective religious traditions and they walk on eggshells in these conversations, working so hard not to say anything offensive that sometimes they don’t succeed in saying anything at all.
The Scribe is not sure if this will contribute to interfaith harmony or not, but over the years The Scribe had the opportunity to meet a great many religious leaders and serious thinkers in both communities and while they may not say these things out loud or on the record, this is what, as far as The Scribe can tell, what many people (not all) in the two communities actually think.


Christians, especially in countries like the United States where the ideal of religious liberty has been an important element of Christian teaching for centuries, believe that the rise of religious tolerance in the Christian world is one of the signs that Christianity is true: believers are becoming more like Christ in his infinite compassion and profound respect and love of every human soul despite error and sin. Moreover they see the spread of tolerance and the repudiation of false ideals like “holy wars” (such as the Crusades, fought not only against Muslims but against heretics inside the Christian world) as signs that God is working in human history to bring us to a greater light and deeper understanding.


For many Muslims, however, the rise of tolerance in Christianity looks less like maturity and self confidence than like the senescence of a religion in decline. Christianity, these critics say, is losing its hold on the western mind. The rise in religious tolerance is the result of necessity — the churches are weak, the believers indifferent, and so Christians no longer have the inner conviction to stand up for their faith. Just as Christian countries tolerate a range of vices and practices that in the past, when their faith was stronger, they opposed (homosexuality, abortion, sexual immorality of all kinds, blasphemy and obscenity), so now they also don’t care very much about what religion people profess because their own faith doesn’t mean all that much to the shrinking minority that still has one.


Islam, these Muslims say, is a stronger faith, less subject to erosion by the forces of modernity and the neo-paganism of consumer culture. Islamic intolerance of religious error reflects a faith that feels itself to be true and is not ashamed or embarrassed to insist on its core values and its historic ideas.


Don’t hold up your flabby faith and your immoral, secular societies to us as examples to imitate, these Muslim critics say. You are tolerant because you are decadent, open because you have lost the will and the strength to defend yourselves and your ideas.


Christians tend to respond with the observation that Islamic societies have been less influenced by modernity because they are “primitive” and “backward.” Modernity originated in the Christian world because Christianity, much more than Islam, was open to science, free inquiry and free commerce than the traditionalist obscurantists of the contemporary Muslim world. 


Muslims often bridle here, pointing to the glorious traditions of Islamic scholarship and high culture at a historical period when literacy largely disappeared from the Christian west. Christians retort with the observation that this was a very long time ago, and the point about Islamic civilization is that it declined and didn’t recover — often because as they grew increasingly powerful and numerous, the Muslims suppressed exactly the Jewish and Christian element in their society that helped provide the stimulus for rich cultural life and intellectual exchange.


Muslims reply to this by pointing to the devastating Mongol invasions which destroyed the flourishing high cultures of the Islamic world even as the Crusades from the west brought unparalleled brutality and destruction to the Mediterranean coast. Christians say the Muslims know nothing about the consequences of religious war and barbarian conquest: the successive waves of barbarians who destroyed the Roman empire and its Carolingian successor states were more devastating and longer lasting. Christianity has absorbed harder blows than Islam, they say, survived more invasions and more disruptive ones over a long time period and doesn’t whine about them today. Islam took a softer punch and went down for the count.


As for religious wars of aggression, the Crusades were an episode; Islamic wars of conquest against Christianity, Christians say, didn’t end until the late 17th century when the Ottoman Turks were finally stopped at the second siege of Vienna. And Christians, Christians like to say, are sorry about the Crusades with their massacres and atrocities. Muslims still celebrate their conquests and glorify religious aggression.


Muslims tend to roll their eyes at this point. Christians, they point out, have been busy for the last 300 years breaking up Islamic empires, conquering Muslims, subjecting them to discriminatory legislation and making them second class citizens in their own countries. French and Italian conquests in North Africa; Dutch and Portuguese conquests in the East Indies and elsewhere, the British Empire which aggressively attacked Islamic rulers from Nigeria to Afghanistan and Malaya. Now it is the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan, the joint western support for the Jews in what for 1,000 years was Islamic Palestine, and forms of cultural and political aggression which seek to remake the whole world in the image of the decadent, post-Christian west.


Can any other religion, Muslims ask, show such a record of aggression, conquest, exploitation and discrimination as those who claim to follow Jesus Christ?


Christians note at this point that the Muslims are simultaneously attacking Christianity as passive and weak while denouncing its brute strength and innate aggression. Surely only one of these charges can be true? Christians would read the history of the last three hundred years in a different way. Because of its openness and dynamism, Christian civilization gave birth to new ways of organizing human society and new technologies and economic institutions and ideas. These brought the Christian world to global predominance, but Christian individuals and cultures were slow to learn how to use their good fortune humanely and well.


Today the extent to which the Christian world struggles to come to terms with the evils of the colonial and imperial expansions of the past, the slave trade, the displacement and massacres of native peoples in so much of what is now the English-speaking world and many other errors and crimes testifies to a new-found civilizational maturity.


Muslims are likely at this point to point out that the Christians are also trying to have it both ways: they are using both their record of global conquest and their contemporary renunciation of conquest to claim civilizational and religious superiority. Can both of these claims really be true?


These discussions can go on for a long time, especially when the participants are even tempered enough to keep talking rather than stalking out in disgust. In my experience they generally end up close to where they begin. Muslims assert that the resistance of Islam both as a system of doctrine and as a living community of believers to the corrosion and discords of modernity points to the clarity of its message and to the superiority of Islam as a religion that can flourish in the contemporary world.


Christians riposte by saying that the unique role of Christianity in bringing modernity into the world evidences the work of the Holy Spirit through the living body of Christ that is the Christian Church. Despite all the shortcomings and abuses of the process of technological and social development of the last 300 years, the healing of the sick, the end of slavery, the emancipation of women and the establishment of genuine religious tolerance and freedom of conscience represent fundamental triumphs of the human spirit that the Christian faith has brought to the world.


Muslims disagree: that Christians can’t disaggregate the good and the bad from their own history (conflating for example commendable advances in medicine with the deplorable rise of sexual promiscuity and the commodification of women into one positive historical movement) just shows what an inadequate platform Christianity provides for serious historical thought and social action.


I’ve grossly oversimplified here; there are Muslims more sympathetic to modernity and Christians more critical of life in the modern west than the two voices I’ve tried to channel. Mustafa Akyol and some of the Islamic intellectuals based in the Sufi traditions of a country like Indonesia, for example, would have a quite different line of discussion.


But the fact remains that for many Christians, attempts to suppress religious liberty (especially for the poor workers from the developing world that the Gulf oil states import to do the work that their own citizens will have nothing to do with) indicate an unformed religious conscience and testify to a terrible spiritual blindness. And for many (though certainly not all) Muslims, these policies are exactly what the world’s most noble religion commands as the will of God on high.


From Via Meadia‘s Christian perspective, the bishops have done the right thing in speaking up about the treatment of Christians on the Arabian peninsula and in the Islamic world as a whole. We can acknowledge that the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia is doing his duty as his conscience instructs, and accept that he speaks out of a rich and vibrant tradition and invokes a religious authority that has deep roots in the world’s second largest religion. But with all due respect, the Grand Mufti has made a moral mistake, and that is never a good thing.